Thursday, 22 August 2019

Re: Removing Qt 4 from Ubuntu before the 20.04 release

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 06:29:45PM -0500, Simon Quigley wrote:
> I would like to completely remove Qt 4 from the Ubuntu archive before
> the 20.04 release. This includes all of KDE 4 and dependencies.

> The Debian Qt/KDE Team (which I am a part of) is raising the status of
> the Qt 4 removal bugs to RC[1], and since the Qt 6 work is starting
> upstream in the dev branch in the coming months, now is the time for Qt
> 4 to go.

> My timeline for this is to change all of the bugs filed to ask people to
> port[2] to removal bugs, and go over the list of Qt 4 reverse
> dependencies one last time, so the removal can be done at the beginning
> of the 20.04 cycle before the archive opens. This would make 19.10 the
> last release with Qt 4.

> Flavors, please check if Qt 4 is on your ISO, and if it is, make plans
> to remove it as soon as you can. Please hop in #ubuntu-qt if you would
> like help porting your favorite application.

$ apt-cache show libqtcore4 | grep Task
Task: lubuntu-desktop, ubuntustudio-publishing, ubuntustudio-audio, ubuntukylin-desktop, ubuntu-mate-core, ubuntu-mate-desktop
$

That's still 4 flavors as of today, FTR.

> Does anyone object to this plan?
>
> [1]
> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2019-August/002920.html
> [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=qt4-removal

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Removing Qt 4 from Ubuntu before the 20.04 release

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Hello,

I would like to completely remove Qt 4 from the Ubuntu archive before
the 20.04 release. This includes all of KDE 4 and dependencies.

The Debian Qt/KDE Team (which I am a part of) is raising the status of
the Qt 4 removal bugs to RC[1], and since the Qt 6 work is starting
upstream in the dev branch in the coming months, now is the time for Qt
4 to go.

My timeline for this is to change all of the bugs filed to ask people to
port[2] to removal bugs, and go over the list of Qt 4 reverse
dependencies one last time, so the removal can be done at the beginning
of the 20.04 cycle before the archive opens. This would make 19.10 the
last release with Qt 4.

Flavors, please check if Qt 4 is on your ISO, and if it is, make plans
to remove it as soon as you can. Please hop in #ubuntu-qt if you would
like help porting your favorite application.

Does anyone object to this plan?

[1]
https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2019-August/002920.html
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=qt4-removal

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C8B5 E27F 2CF8 458C 2FA4

New Kernel Uploaders

Today, the Kernel Uploaders Team[1] had an ad-hoc meeting with the
following members in attendence:

Andy Whitcroft (~apw) [chair]
Juerg Haefliger (~juergh)
Kleber Sacilotto de Souza (~kleber-souza)
Marcelo Cerri (~mhcerri)
Stefan Bader (~smb)
Seth Forshee (~sforshee)
Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo (~cascardo)

Next we reviewed the Kernel Upload rights application for Andrea Righi
(~arighi)[2]. Andrea has been working with the kernel team for close to
6 months and has been working on stable kernels as well as working on a
number of longer term projects and high profile bugs. His application was
warmly received by the team. A vote was held and passed without objection:

Andy Whitcroft +1
Juerg Haefliger +1
Kleber Sacilotto de Souza +1
Marcelo Cerri +1
Stefan Bader +1
Seth Forshee +1
Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo +1

The team would like to thank Andrea for all their hard work on Ubuntu and
take this opportunity to welcome them to the team. Enjoy your new rights.

Andy Whitcroft was tasked with adding the applicant to the team.

Congratulations!

-apw (On Behalf of the Kernel Uploaders Team)

[1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel-uploaders
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreaRighi/KernelUploadsApplication

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Wednesday, 21 August 2019

Re: Python2 removal: packages which are only in Ubuntu

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:10:56PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 20.08.19 23:10, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > As a datapoint, beanstalkc in this list has been removed from Debian, but we
> > haven't followed the removal in Ubuntu because we have an Ubuntu-specific
> > reverse-dependency, kombu, which does not appear in your list below. Is
> > there something more we could do to identify packages such as kombu?

> kombu shows up in both the Debian and the Ubuntu tracker, that's why it doesn't
> show up in my list. https://bugs.debian.org/934884 shows the premature removal
> in Debian, so no, I don't think we can identify such packages.

Indeed, it looks like a new kombu which drops python2 support is stuck in
-proposed (because it itself has python2 reverse-dependencies). So I agree
there's nothing generalizale here.

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Re: Python2 removal: packages which are only in Ubuntu

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:07, Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> The removal of Python2 (build-)dependent packages, or the conversion of packages
> has now been started in Debian. A few hundred are done, a few thousand are
> still on the list :-/
>
> Here is the list of source packages which are in Ubuntu only. It looks like
> many of those could just be removed.
>
> The list is generated from
> https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/python2-rm.html
> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/python2-rm.html
>
> Matthias
>

Overall this looks plausible, but probably needs double-checking and
figuring out false positives / negatives.

>
> aafigure
> afl-cov
> aodh
> apache-openid
> apport
> apt-btrfs-snapshot
> aptdaemon
> autopilot
> autopilot-gtk
> autopilot-legacy
> barbican
> beanstalkc
> beautifulsoup
> bombono-dvd
> brltty


> bzr-builder
> bzr-webdav

We should superseed these with breezy

> ceilometer
> cinder
> classmate-tools
> community-themes
> crochet
> curtin
> deja-dup-caja
> designate
> designate-dashboard
> discosnp
> distro-info-data
> django-adminaudit
> django-configglue
> django-mailer
> django-piston3
> django-sekizai
> djorm-ext-pgarray
> dtest
> edgy-community-wallpapers
> edubuntu-menueditor
> elementtidy
> example-content
> feisty-session-splashes
> feisty-wallpapers
> folder-color
> folder-color-caja
> folder-color-common
> forgethtml
> forgetsql
> gce-compute-image-packages
> gedit-developer-plugins
> geneatd
> gfceu
> glance
> glmark2
> gmountiso
> gnocchi
> greekocr4gamera
> gresistor
> grokcore.component
> grub2
> gutsy-wallpapers
> heat
> heat-cfntools
> heat-dashboard
> horizon
> hud
> human-theme
> hvac
> ifrit
> indicator-power
> indicator-printers
> indicator-session
> intel-graphics-compiler
> ironic
> ironic-inspector
> ironic-ui
> iscpy
> jabberbot
> jabber.py
> jack-rack
> juju-deployer
> kde-l10n-ar
> kde-l10n-ast
> kde-l10n-bg
> kde-l10n-bs
> kde-l10n-ca
> kde-l10n-ca-valencia
> kde-l10n-cs
> kde-l10n-da
> kde-l10n-de
> kde-l10n-el
> kde-l10n-engb
> kde-l10n-eo
> kde-l10n-es
> kde-l10n-et
> kde-l10n-eu
> kde-l10n-fa
> kde-l10n-fi
> kde-l10n-fr
> kde-l10n-ga
> kde-l10n-gl
> kde-l10n-he
> kde-l10n-hi
> kde-l10n-hr
> kde-l10n-hu
> kde-l10n-ia
> kde-l10n-id
> kde-l10n-is
> kde-l10n-it
> kde-l10n-ja
> kde-l10n-kk
> kde-l10n-km
> kde-l10n-ko
> kde-l10n-lt
> kde-l10n-lv
> kde-l10n-mr
> kde-l10n-nb
> kde-l10n-nds
> kde-l10n-nl
> kde-l10n-nn
> kde-l10n-pa
> kde-l10n-pl
> kde-l10n-pt
> kde-l10n-ptbr
> kde-l10n-ro
> kde-l10n-ru
> kde-l10n-si
> kde-l10n-sk
> kde-l10n-sl
> kde-l10n-sr
> kde-l10n-sv
> kde-l10n-tg
> kde-l10n-th
> kde-l10n-tr
> kde-l10n-ug
> kde-l10n-uk
> kde-l10n-vi
> kde-l10n-wa
> kde-l10n-zhcn
> kde-l10n-zhtw
> keystone
> kpatch
> kubuntu-settings
> lazr.batchnavigator
> lazr.enum
> lazr.lifecycle
> libappindicator
> libgetdata
> libpfm4
> librtcom-telepathy-glib
> libsignon-glib
> libunity
> light-locker-settings
> linux
> linux-aws
> linux-azure
> linux-gcp
> linux-kvm
> linux-oem
> linux-oem-osp1
> linux-oracle
> linux-raspi2
> linux-snapdragon
> logaricheck
> ltsp-cluster-accountmanager
> ltsp-cluster-agent
> ltsp-cluster-agent-weblive
> ltsp-cluster-lbagent
> ltsp-cluster-lbserver
> ltsp-cluster-pxeconfig
> m2ext
> magictouch
> magnum
> mago
> manila
> manila-ui
> mapserver
> maptransfer
> martian
> masakari
> masakari-monitors
> mistral
> monasca-statsd
> mttroff
> multitet
> murano
> murano-agent
> murano-dashboard
> musiclibrarian
> mythtv
> networking-bagpipe
> networking-bgpvpn
> networking-hyperv
> networking-l2gw
> networking-odl
> networking-ovn
> networking-sfc
> neutron
> neutron-dynamic-routing
> neutron-fwaas
> neutron-lbaas
> neutron-taas
> neutron-vpnaas
> ninja-ide
> nose-cov
> nose-json
> notify-osd-icons
> nova
> nova-adminclient
> nova-lxd
> ocr4gamera
> oops
> oops-amqp
> oops-datedir-repo
> oops-twisted
> oops-wsgi
> openerp6.1
> openstack-trove
> openwsman
> optcomplete
> panko
> piston-mini-client
> placement
> planarity
> pocket-lint
> pocketsphinx
> powernap
> pyao
> pybootchartgui
> pyexcelerator
> pyferret
> pygpiv
> pygrib
> pyip
> pylang
> py-libmpdclient
> pylibssh2
> pyromaths
> pysesame
> pyspeex
> pyth
> python2-pythondialog
> python-3parclient
> python-adodb
> python-afl
> python-application
> python-blazarclient
> python-buzhug
> python-cmislib
> python-cobe
> python-daap
> python-django-extdirect
> python-django-piston
> python-django-shorturls
> python-glance-store
> python-gvgen
> python-jujubundlelib
> python-jujuclient
> python-keyczar
> python-launchpadlib-toolkit
> python-ldappool
> python-libcharmstore
> python-libpcap
> python-ltsp
> python-lzo
> python-mapnik
> python-mecab
> python-mock-services
> python-mod-pywebsocket
> python-octavia-lib
> python-os-ken
> python-oslo.upgradecheck
> python-otherstuf
> python-pcs
> python-petname
> python-pypm
> python-qinlingclient
> python-schema-salad
> python-scriptutil
> python-stuf
> python-theblues
> python-thrift
> python-thriftpy
> pythontracer
> python-tx-tftp
> python-vmware-nsxlib
> pyvtk
> qtwebkit-source
> quixote
> radosgw-agent
> reverend
> sahara
> sahara-dashboard
> sbuild-launchpad-chroot

> schooltool-book

Since schooltool itself is removed, we should remove the docs too.
Filed a task on
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/schooltool-book/+bug/1665464


> semantik
> senlin
> sgt-launcher
> silo-llnl
> simpleparse
> simplestreams
> smartshine
> software-center-aptdaemon-plugins
> splatd
> sponc
> ssoclient
> steam
> storm
> subiquity
> swauth
> system-config-kickstart
> templayer
> testdrive
> tickcount
> trove-dashboard
> turbokid
> txamqp
> txlongpoll
> txzookeeper
> ubiquity
> ubuntu-business-defaults
> ubuntu-gnome-wallpapers
> ubuntu-kylin-sso-client
> ubuntuone-dev-tools
> ubuntu-online-tour
> ubuntustudio-default-settings
> ubuntu-system-service
> ubuntu-themes
> ubuntu-wallpapers
> uec-provisioning
> uhome
> unity-asset-pool
> unity-china-photo-scope
> unity-gtk-module
> unity-lens-photos
> unity-scope-home
> unity-scope-launchpad
> unity-scope-sshsearch
> uvtool
> van.testing
> videoporama
> virtkey
> vmware-nsx
> watcher
> webservice-office-zoho
> whoopsie-preferences
> window-mocker
> wxbanker
> x-kit
> xpyb
> yappy
> zaqar
> zescrow


> zope.annotation
> zope.applicationcontrol
> zope.broken
> zope.browserresource
> zope.catalog
> zope.componentvocabulary
> zope.container
> zope.contentprovider
> zope.copypastemove
> zope.datetime
> zope.dublincore
> zope.error
> zope.filerepresentation
> zope.index
> zope.intid
> zope.keyreference
> zope.lifecycleevent
> zope.login
> zope.minmax
> zope.password
> zope.pluggableauth
> zope.preference
> zope.principalannotation
> zope.principalregistry
> zope.processlifetime
> zope.securitypolicy
> zope.server
> zope.session
> zope.site
> zope.size
> zope.structuredtext
> zope.tal
> zope.tales
> zope.ucol
>

Many of the above look to me like reverse-dependencies of the removed
schooltool.

I think we should recursively remove zope.* leaf things including any
cycles, which are all dead-ends, or like known to be part of
ex-schooltool dependency chain.

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Re: Python2 removal: packages which are only in Ubuntu

On 20.08.19 23:10, Steve Langasek wrote:
> As a datapoint, beanstalkc in this list has been removed from Debian, but we
> haven't followed the removal in Ubuntu because we have an Ubuntu-specific
> reverse-dependency, kombu, which does not appear in your list below. Is
> there something more we could do to identify packages such as kombu?

kombu shows up in both the Debian and the Ubuntu tracker, that's why it doesn't
show up in my list. https://bugs.debian.org/934884 shows the premature removal
in Debian, so no, I don't think we can identify such packages.

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Tuesday, 20 August 2019

Re: Python2 removal: packages which are only in Ubuntu

As a datapoint, beanstalkc in this list has been removed from Debian, but we
haven't followed the removal in Ubuntu because we have an Ubuntu-specific
reverse-dependency, kombu, which does not appear in your list below. Is
there something more we could do to identify packages such as kombu?

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 09:06:38PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> The removal of Python2 (build-)dependent packages, or the conversion of packages
> has now been started in Debian. A few hundred are done, a few thousand are
> still on the list :-/
>
> Here is the list of source packages which are in Ubuntu only. It looks like
> many of those could just be removed.
>
> The list is generated from
> https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/python2-rm.html
> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/python2-rm.html
>
> Matthias
>
>
> aafigure
> afl-cov
> aodh
> apache-openid
> apport
> apt-btrfs-snapshot
> aptdaemon
> autopilot
> autopilot-gtk
> autopilot-legacy
> barbican
> beanstalkc
> beautifulsoup
> bombono-dvd
> brltty
> bzr-builder
> bzr-webdav
> ceilometer
> cinder
> classmate-tools
> community-themes
> crochet
> curtin
> deja-dup-caja
> designate
> designate-dashboard
> discosnp
> distro-info-data
> django-adminaudit
> django-configglue
> django-mailer
> django-piston3
> django-sekizai
> djorm-ext-pgarray
> dtest
> edgy-community-wallpapers
> edubuntu-menueditor
> elementtidy
> example-content
> feisty-session-splashes
> feisty-wallpapers
> folder-color
> folder-color-caja
> folder-color-common
> forgethtml
> forgetsql
> gce-compute-image-packages
> gedit-developer-plugins
> geneatd
> gfceu
> glance
> glmark2
> gmountiso
> gnocchi
> greekocr4gamera
> gresistor
> grokcore.component
> grub2
> gutsy-wallpapers
> heat
> heat-cfntools
> heat-dashboard
> horizon
> hud
> human-theme
> hvac
> ifrit
> indicator-power
> indicator-printers
> indicator-session
> intel-graphics-compiler
> ironic
> ironic-inspector
> ironic-ui
> iscpy
> jabberbot
> jabber.py
> jack-rack
> juju-deployer
> kde-l10n-ar
> kde-l10n-ast
> kde-l10n-bg
> kde-l10n-bs
> kde-l10n-ca
> kde-l10n-ca-valencia
> kde-l10n-cs
> kde-l10n-da
> kde-l10n-de
> kde-l10n-el
> kde-l10n-engb
> kde-l10n-eo
> kde-l10n-es
> kde-l10n-et
> kde-l10n-eu
> kde-l10n-fa
> kde-l10n-fi
> kde-l10n-fr
> kde-l10n-ga
> kde-l10n-gl
> kde-l10n-he
> kde-l10n-hi
> kde-l10n-hr
> kde-l10n-hu
> kde-l10n-ia
> kde-l10n-id
> kde-l10n-is
> kde-l10n-it
> kde-l10n-ja
> kde-l10n-kk
> kde-l10n-km
> kde-l10n-ko
> kde-l10n-lt
> kde-l10n-lv
> kde-l10n-mr
> kde-l10n-nb
> kde-l10n-nds
> kde-l10n-nl
> kde-l10n-nn
> kde-l10n-pa
> kde-l10n-pl
> kde-l10n-pt
> kde-l10n-ptbr
> kde-l10n-ro
> kde-l10n-ru
> kde-l10n-si
> kde-l10n-sk
> kde-l10n-sl
> kde-l10n-sr
> kde-l10n-sv
> kde-l10n-tg
> kde-l10n-th
> kde-l10n-tr
> kde-l10n-ug
> kde-l10n-uk
> kde-l10n-vi
> kde-l10n-wa
> kde-l10n-zhcn
> kde-l10n-zhtw
> keystone
> kpatch
> kubuntu-settings
> lazr.batchnavigator
> lazr.enum
> lazr.lifecycle
> libappindicator
> libgetdata
> libpfm4
> librtcom-telepathy-glib
> libsignon-glib
> libunity
> light-locker-settings
> linux
> linux-aws
> linux-azure
> linux-gcp
> linux-kvm
> linux-oem
> linux-oem-osp1
> linux-oracle
> linux-raspi2
> linux-snapdragon
> logaricheck
> ltsp-cluster-accountmanager
> ltsp-cluster-agent
> ltsp-cluster-agent-weblive
> ltsp-cluster-lbagent
> ltsp-cluster-lbserver
> ltsp-cluster-pxeconfig
> m2ext
> magictouch
> magnum
> mago
> manila
> manila-ui
> mapserver
> maptransfer
> martian
> masakari
> masakari-monitors
> mistral
> monasca-statsd
> mttroff
> multitet
> murano
> murano-agent
> murano-dashboard
> musiclibrarian
> mythtv
> networking-bagpipe
> networking-bgpvpn
> networking-hyperv
> networking-l2gw
> networking-odl
> networking-ovn
> networking-sfc
> neutron
> neutron-dynamic-routing
> neutron-fwaas
> neutron-lbaas
> neutron-taas
> neutron-vpnaas
> ninja-ide
> nose-cov
> nose-json
> notify-osd-icons
> nova
> nova-adminclient
> nova-lxd
> ocr4gamera
> oops
> oops-amqp
> oops-datedir-repo
> oops-twisted
> oops-wsgi
> openerp6.1
> openstack-trove
> openwsman
> optcomplete
> panko
> piston-mini-client
> placement
> planarity
> pocket-lint
> pocketsphinx
> powernap
> pyao
> pybootchartgui
> pyexcelerator
> pyferret
> pygpiv
> pygrib
> pyip
> pylang
> py-libmpdclient
> pylibssh2
> pyromaths
> pysesame
> pyspeex
> pyth
> python2-pythondialog
> python-3parclient
> python-adodb
> python-afl
> python-application
> python-blazarclient
> python-buzhug
> python-cmislib
> python-cobe
> python-daap
> python-django-extdirect
> python-django-piston
> python-django-shorturls
> python-glance-store
> python-gvgen
> python-jujubundlelib
> python-jujuclient
> python-keyczar
> python-launchpadlib-toolkit
> python-ldappool
> python-libcharmstore
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