Monday, 19 August 2013

Re: vUDS Scheduling

Hi Scott,

I can only speak on behalf of the Cloud and Server track, but I'd like
to clarify how we intend to use this. Unlike a start-of-cycle vUDS,
this is a midcycle checkpoint opportunity.

The purpose of this, is to drive existing blueprints to completion.

This is an chance for those involved in Cloud and Server to do a
'show-and-tell' of blueprints defined 3 months ago. We can evaluate
decisions made then, check if assumptions were correct, anything we
feel needs to be re-addressed and some re-scoping. Very little (if
any), new work should come from this.

The Canonical Server team previously did this same exercise but at an
internal-only mid-cycle sprint. This is largely the same thing, but
out in the open. THIS i am a big fan of and I am sure you are also
supportive of this.

Personally, I think the timing to clash with feature freeze lends
itself nicely. This is the time that blueprints should be de-scoped
if they are clearly not on track with features, and anything we
/really/ need to see this cycle - can be considered very carefully
with risk mitigation.

If you have any questions about this, please feel free to give me a shout.

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Dave Walker <[email protected]>
Engineering Manager,
Ubuntu Server

On 19 August 2013 18:26, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree that this is useful for Canonical upstreams trying to map out their
> next three - six months' work. From a distro development perspective, not so
> much. I would hope there's a look beyond the next three months. By starting
> to plan for 14.04 now, they'll be in a much better position to understand what
> needs doing and when to land things in the archive on a timely basis.
>
> Scott K
>
> On Monday, August 19, 2013 12:15:45 Rick Spencer wrote:
>> For Ubuntu touch, at least, there is a lot to figure out and do before
>> shipping 13.10. Personally, I think it would be most beneficial to do
>> that planning and have those discussions transparently and in an
>> organized manner.
>>
>> Cheers, Rick
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> > On Monday, August 19, 2013 10:52:18 Ted Gould wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 10:05 -0400, Michael Hall wrote:
>> >> > UDS August 2013
>> >> > Starts: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:00:00 UTC
>> >> > Ends: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:00:00 UTC
>> >>
>> >> Are we putting vUDS the three days before feature freeze?
>> >>
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
>> >>
>> >> Seems like bad time for people working on Ubuntu.
>> >
>> > I think that is generically true for the mid-cycle vUDS. This is no doubt
>> > worse than it might be, but it's a bit early to start planning the next
>> > Ubuntu release cycle. Whoever it's for, I don't think it's for people
>> > working on Ubuntu.
>> >
>> > Scott K
>> >
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