Tuesday, 26 November 2013

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

Hi Thomi,

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Thomi Richards <thomi.richards@canonical.com> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ursula Junque <ursinha@ursinha.net> wrote:

If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against Ubuntu packages, discouraging the direct upstream reporting. 

I think the distinction between upstream and distro is a useful one, and I'd be sad if we started treating them as one and the same (or created a blanket rule about where bugs should be reported, which is effectively the same thing, in my mind). 

I also believe that the correct place for almost all bugs to be filed is against the upstream projects itself (at least, for the core Canonical/Ubuntu projects - I assume we're having this conversation in the context of canonical-sponsored Ubuntu Touch projects).

I understand your point, but I'm talking about the policy while dogfooding Ubuntu Touch, and as this is testing the distro it would make more sense to file bugs against the distro packages and use the distro tools, as ogra pointed. As I said, if upstreams see value in having an upstream bugtask that can be discussed, but in this case we need to have at least one bugtask for the source package, always.

Sebastian (seb128) pointed that having one list of bugs (the distro ones) helped a lot for the Settings project, they even "closed" the bugs section on the upstream project to ensure bugs would be in a single place (also easier to maintain more accurate bug status/progress). We only need to agree on a policy so it's clear to everyone how it works.

I suspect one of the issues is that it's easy to miss bugs filed against the Ubuntu package only. Is there an easy tweak we can make to launchpad so these bugs are more visible? Or perhaps there's already a way, but I just don't know about it?

You only need to look for bugs in the source package, like this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopilot/+bugs. Using specific tags also helps, if you feel you need more filtering. The launchpad team and the subscription thing I mentioned in my email were to be able to spot such bugs easily, as it's not possible to see all bugs across selected packages using the Launchpad UI.



Ursinha (Ursula Junque)
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