On 12 December 2013 13:17, Robie Basak <email@example.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 05:15:41PM -0600, C de-Avillez wrote:
>> Although I am probably hammering a rather cold iron, I still fail to
>> understand why ntp is not installed by default. I would expect precise
>> timekeeping to be something important on a server (instead of allowing
>> the time to drift slowly).
> Right now, ntpdate is seeded in platform.trusty/minimal. I only see ntp
> itself in server-ship, so we end up with ntpdate installed without ntp
> as standard everywhere.
> I recently filed
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731352. There, I'm told
> that ntpdate on its own (without ntpd) is deprecated.
> So should we be installing ntpdate by default without ntp at all via the
> minimal seed? If so, then I'd like to have ntpdate use the DHCP
> ntp-server option if it is available, as I've described in that bug, to
> fix a MAAS issue on hardware where an RTC isn't available. It looks like
> this functionality has been there a while, but has not been enabled in
> the case where ntp isn't installed, but ntpdate is, which is the common
Note that in Debian it is at the moment actively discussed to
potentially install NTP daemon by default, with current siding to use
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