Saturday, 14 December 2013

Re: ntp and ntpdate [was: Ubuntu Server seeded package review]

On 12 December 2013 13:17, Robie Basak <> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 05:15:41PM -0600, C de-Avillez wrote:
>> Although I am probably hammering a rather cold iron, I still fail to
>> understand why ntp is not installed by default. I would expect precise
>> timekeeping to be something important on a server (instead of allowing
>> the time to drift slowly).
> Right now, ntpdate is seeded in platform.trusty/minimal. I only see ntp
> itself in server-ship, so we end up with ntpdate installed without ntp
> as standard everywhere.
> I recently filed
> There, I'm told
> that ntpdate on its own (without ntpd) is deprecated.
> So should we be installing ntpdate by default without ntp at all via the
> minimal seed? If so, then I'd like to have ntpdate use the DHCP
> ntp-server option if it is available, as I've described in that bug, to
> fix a MAAS issue on hardware where an RTC isn't available. It looks like
> this functionality has been there a while, but has not been enabled in
> the case where ntp isn't installed, but ntpdate is, which is the common
> case.

Note that in Debian it is at the moment actively discussed to
potentially install NTP daemon by default, with current siding to use



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