Friday, 27 January 2017

Re: Proposal: removing net-tools from ubuntu-minimal in 17.04

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 03:25:13PM -0600, Dustin Kirkland wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Steve Langasek
> <> wrote:
> > Hi all,

> > Starting last month, Debian has been discussing dropping net-tools[1], which
> > prompted me to review its status in Ubuntu. This package, which provides
> > various commands like ifconfig and netstat, is currently part of
> > ubuntu-minimal. However, the tools in this package are largely considered
> > superseded by iproute2, providing 'ip' and 'ss' tools that interface much
> > better with modern kernels. And iproute2 is also part of ubuntu-minimal.

> > Is there a reason to keep net-tools in ubuntu-minimal, or should we remove
> > it from the minimal set for 17.04? Packages / flavors that want it can
> > still depend on it (which they should technically already be doing anyway).

> I'm +1 on dropping net-tools from ubuntu-minimal, as long as we keep
> it in the ubuntu-server seed. There are lots of user scripts and
> tools that awk and grep their way around ifconfig output, that we
> should be careful not to break, in the default Ubuntu experience.
> But, I agree that the minimal Ubuntu image can certainly get by with
> just /sbin/ip.

Thanks. Since there's been no other feedback, I've gone ahead with moving
this out of the minimal seed and into the server seed.

Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world.
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