Monday, 31 July 2017

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Legacy Support

On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Ian Bruntlett wrote:

> Hi Len,
>
> On 31 July 2017 at 02:22, Len Ovens <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, Helios Martinez Dominguez wrote:
>
> There should be a way to provide x86 support natively
> while providing x64
> upgrading on the go as detected, as needed or as stated.
> It would allow to remain
>
>
> We already do provide both 32 and 64 bit ISOs. Putting both on one
> ISO would pretty much double the size of an ISO that is the biggest
> ISO of all the Ubuntu ISOs. Last I checked, UbuntuSTudio did still
> load and work on well over 10 years old computers so long as they
> have at least 1 Gig ram (though more is needed to make the best use)
> There are enough people who rely on a machine not connected to tyhe
> internet to make on the go installs not practical.
>
>
> I use the existing isos a lot. In particular, the isos can be used via optical
> disc or USB flash drive. That makes life (and testing) easier.
>
> There are a number of ways to see of a computer is (Intel/AMD) 64-bit compatible.

So now we know that this is a 64bit machine (90% plus of all current
machines). So either the ISO is really big so we can load just the 64bit
libs and apps or the 32 bit libs and apps... or we provide something about
twice the size of the mini.iso and force everyone to download everything
else. Now spread that to even just 5 machines that each have to download
almost everything instead of just choosing the right ISO in the first
place, downloading once, and installing 5 times with no network hookup
required. What we have already seems the best bet to be helpful to the
most people.

However, if you have a better idea you are welcome to join the dev team
and do the work (pretty much all of it please).

>
> 1. Boot from a memtest86+ disc, look at the processor details on-screen and
> Google that for more details. Or look it up on WikiPedia.
>
> 2. If running a Linux, use this command:-
> grep -i lm /proc/cpuinfo
>
> If you see "lm" listed in the "flags" line, 64-bit mode is available.

Personally, I don't care to know how it's done. I barely have time to do
what I already am and will for sure not take on this project as well. I
note nobody else has resonded to your email either so I would take this
as a good indication that this project belongs to you.

personally, I think the idea of forcing almost all Studio users to use a
32bit ISO and then redownload what they have already downloaded is just
dumb. Just pick the correct ISO and be happy. So far as I know, all of our
testing is being done on 64bit HW just because that is what people have,
this includes 32bit ISOs.

--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net


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