Tuesday, 21 August 2018

Re: Transition of LXD from deb to snap

On 21.08.2018 17:14, Stéphane Graber wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 05:07:47PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
>> On 21.08.2018 17:01, Stéphane Graber wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 04:58:21PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
>>>> On 21.08.2018 16:56, Stéphane Graber wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:46:34AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
>>>>>> On 20.08.2018 23:13, Stéphane Graber wrote:
>>>>>>> If you're running downstream software which interacts with LXD, I'd
>>>>>>> strongly recommend you try switching to the snap, either using the
>>>>>>> package in that PPA or manually by installing the LXD snap and then
>>>>>>> running "lxd.migrate".
>>>>>> there are (and for are for a while) currently failing lxd autopkg tests
>>>>>> triggered by other packages (see update_excuses). What's the future of these?
>>>>>> Short term fixing those please, and long term?
>>>>> LXD 3.0.2 which we'll be uploading this week has a "fix" for those
>>>>> errors (effectively shellcheck becoming more verbose).
>>>>> The empty LXD deb will not contain any autopkgtest so once the
>>>>> transition to the snap is done, autopkgtest will effectively always be a
>>>>> no-op.
>>>> ... which is interpreted as a failing autopkg test. You have to add an always
>>>> succeeding autopkg test.
>>> Sure but as I said just a paragraph above this, LXD 3.0.2, which we'll
>>> be uploading this week, has a "fix" for this.
>> so if we have to wait for every autopkg test fix several weeks, that doesn't
>> work in the archive. we have a feature freeze tomorrow, and other packages
>> depend on that. From my point of view there is something very wrong if we have
>> to wait that long. Multiply that time by other needed autopkg test fixes, and
>> we are at this point again accumulating packages in the -proposed pocket for no
>> reason ...
> Can you relax a bit maybe?

No. You are trading in your test resources against resources spent by various
people doing the archive work. From my point of view, this is a no-go. I am
just wondering about such a laissez-faire style, at least you are still an
Ubuntu Release Manager, knowing how much autopkg test failures can get in the
way of archive work.

> LXD 3.0.2 was tagged last Thursday, we're
> finishing the release announcement so that it can go in the changelog
> and then we'll upload it.

please notice it's not just this upload, but the lxd testsuite seems to be a bit
picky to fail on the buildds. If people need to work-around autopkg tests, it's
their time again.

> The LXD testsuite takes quite a while to run, so it'd be a waste of time
> to have to figure out what to cherry-pick, testbuild, upload, get things
> to the release pocket to then do it all over again a few hours later for
> the upstream bugfix release.
>> sorry, but that's not pro-active archive work.
>> Matthias

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