Wednesday 28 July 2021

Re: Plan to reform the Ubuntu Backporters Team [was: Proposal: sunset the backports pockets]

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:20 AM Robie Basak <robie.basak@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 05:00:26PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote:
> > So as far as next steps based on your proposal, it seems like:
>
> I detailed the next steps specifically in my proposal but focused on
> slightly different things, so I appreciate you laying out your
> perspective also. What you suggest here is essentially the same anyway.

sorry yes you did, agreed that my list was essentially the same as yours

>
> > 1) Open call for initial volunteers
> > - I volunteer for the leadership role (at least for the initial
> > re-establishment), assuming there are no objections
>
> Looks like there have been no objections. To be clear, I understand that
> you're also volunteering for the day-to-day role?

yes

>
> > - mapreri volunteers for day-to-day role (thanks Mattia!)
> > - this email thread seems like a good enough call to the community for
> > anyone else who wants to volunteer, either in a leadership role or
> > day-to-day role
>
> +1. It appears that Mattia and Dan are currently the only volunteers.
>
> > 2) Administrative changes to ~ubuntu-backporters
> > - I don't see any public documentation on an existing process for
> > membership changes to ~ubuntu-backporters, so I assume your proposal
> > along with the disussion here is enough justification to ask the TB to
> > make the changes, assuming there is no objection from the TB of
> > course, or from existing active members (Laney I assume all this
> > sounds ok to you?)
>
> There has been no objection, so I intend to make the changes as agreed
> in this thread as soon as ~techboard gets control of the team. Since
> there is consensus here, I see no need to ask for TB permission
> specifically (or, if you prefer to consider it this way, I will use my
> TB hat to JFDI).
>
> I haven't managed to reach ScottK who currently owns the
> ~ubuntu-backporters team. However he stepped away from Ubuntu
> development quite a long time ago, and I don't think he would have any
> objection to handing over the reins to ~techboard. So I filed
> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/698165 yesterday to
> request this change.
>
> Assuming the change is made, following my proposal detail, I intend to
> remove everyone from ~ubuntu-backports and add Dan as its sole admin,
> and then let Dan take it from there (I assume he will add Mattia as a
> team member, and maybe Iain).
>
> If we can't have ~ubuntu-backporters, I suppose I could register
> ~ubuntu-backporters2 and swap the queue ACLs over, but this seems
> unlikely (and suboptimal).

+1 all sounds good to me

>
> > 3) New team has initial public irc meeting (and email/chat
> > communication as needed) to make any process reforms (membership,
> > backports process, etc)
> > 4) update public documentation
> > 5) New team starts work on reviewing backports
> >
> > does that seem correct?
>
> This sounds good to me. These steps 3-5 would be for you (Dan) to
> organise.

I'm fine with Mattia's suggestion for the first irc mtg the week of
Sept 6-10; my TZ is us/eastern (currently UTC-4) so my preference
would be anytime between 12:00 and 22:00 UTC, but I could push that a
bit earlier or later if needed.

mapreri, teward, any preference on the day and/or time for the first
mtg? Does Wed, Sept 8 at 14:00 UTC sound ok?

>
> Thanks,
>
> Robie

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