Wednesday 25 August 2021

Re: Plan to reform the Ubuntu Backporters Team [was: Proposal: sunset the backports pockets]

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 5:51 PM Dan Streetman <ddstreet@canonical.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:40 AM Dan Streetman <ddstreet@canonical.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:20 AM Robie Basak <robie.basak@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 05:00:26PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote:
> > > > So as far as next steps based on your proposal, it seems like:
> > >
> > > I detailed the next steps specifically in my proposal but focused on
> > > slightly different things, so I appreciate you laying out your
> > > perspective also. What you suggest here is essentially the same anyway.
> >
> > sorry yes you did, agreed that my list was essentially the same as yours
> >
> > >
> > > > 1) Open call for initial volunteers
> > > > - I volunteer for the leadership role (at least for the initial
> > > > re-establishment), assuming there are no objections
> > >
> > > Looks like there have been no objections. To be clear, I understand that
> > > you're also volunteering for the day-to-day role?
> >
> > yes
> >
> > >
> > > > - mapreri volunteers for day-to-day role (thanks Mattia!)
> > > > - this email thread seems like a good enough call to the community for
> > > > anyone else who wants to volunteer, either in a leadership role or
> > > > day-to-day role
> > >
> > > +1. It appears that Mattia and Dan are currently the only volunteers.
> > >
> > > > 2) Administrative changes to ~ubuntu-backporters
> > > > - I don't see any public documentation on an existing process for
> > > > membership changes to ~ubuntu-backporters, so I assume your proposal
> > > > along with the disussion here is enough justification to ask the TB to
> > > > make the changes, assuming there is no objection from the TB of
> > > > course, or from existing active members (Laney I assume all this
> > > > sounds ok to you?)
> > >
> > > There has been no objection, so I intend to make the changes as agreed
> > > in this thread as soon as ~techboard gets control of the team. Since
> > > there is consensus here, I see no need to ask for TB permission
> > > specifically (or, if you prefer to consider it this way, I will use my
> > > TB hat to JFDI).
> > >
> > > I haven't managed to reach ScottK who currently owns the
> > > ~ubuntu-backporters team. However he stepped away from Ubuntu
> > > development quite a long time ago, and I don't think he would have any
> > > objection to handing over the reins to ~techboard. So I filed
> > > https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/698165 yesterday to
> > > request this change.
> > >
> > > Assuming the change is made, following my proposal detail, I intend to
> > > remove everyone from ~ubuntu-backports and add Dan as its sole admin,
> > > and then let Dan take it from there (I assume he will add Mattia as a
> > > team member, and maybe Iain).
> > >
> > > If we can't have ~ubuntu-backporters, I suppose I could register
> > > ~ubuntu-backporters2 and swap the queue ACLs over, but this seems
> > > unlikely (and suboptimal).
> >
> > +1 all sounds good to me
> >
> > >
> > > > 3) New team has initial public irc meeting (and email/chat
> > > > communication as needed) to make any process reforms (membership,
> > > > backports process, etc)
> > > > 4) update public documentation
> > > > 5) New team starts work on reviewing backports
> > > >
> > > > does that seem correct?
> > >
> > > This sounds good to me. These steps 3-5 would be for you (Dan) to
> > > organise.
> >
> > I'm fine with Mattia's suggestion for the first irc mtg the week of
> > Sept 6-10; my TZ is us/eastern (currently UTC-4) so my preference
> > would be anytime between 12:00 and 22:00 UTC, but I could push that a
> > bit earlier or later if needed.
> >
> > mapreri, teward, any preference on the day and/or time for the first
> > mtg? Does Wed, Sept 8 at 14:00 UTC sound ok?
>
> It sounds like both of you prefer this time or (preferably) later, so
> would Sept 8 at 16:00 UTC be agreeable for you? That's right in the
> middle of my day.
>
> Iain, and Robie if you plan to join, would that work for you as well?

Assuming there's no objecting to the proposed time, Sept 8 at 16:00
UTC, I've added it to the Ubuntu Fridge, and created an initial agenda
page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports/Agenda

Please feel free to update the agenda page with any topics anyone
thinks should be discussed at the meeting, and/or just show up to the
meeting to discuss anything - I think there are a few main items we
should talk about at this first meeting, but I don't think we
necessarily need a strict agenda.

Thanks!

>
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Robie

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