Thursday 13 July 2023

Re: Turning on phased update support in chroots in 24.10 (24.04?)

On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 11:42, Julian Andres Klode
<julian.klode@canonical.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 11:09:02AM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 10:27, Julian Andres Klode
> > <julian.klode@canonical.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > I just got reminded that when we wrote the initial phasing code
> > > we made it not apply in chroots to avoid breaking builders and
> > > things.
> > >
> > > I'd like to remove that check because it's a bit unexpected. To
> > > do that, I'll probably add an option to override the chroot check
> > > to apt soon for 23.10 and then we can drop the check in 24.10, or
> > > 24.04 even.
> > >
> > > When the initial code was written, phasing was implemented using
> > > policy and respected by the install command. Since then, phasing
> > > has moved to the upgrade calculation, using keep back, so there are
> > > significantly less concerns as installs no longer respect phasing,
> > > so image building is not affected anymore, but upgrading build chroots
> > > would be.
> >
> > If proposed is enabled, and pinned up, can the phasing be ignored on
> > the updates pocket?
> > Or is there a pinning preference we can use, to again update all our
> > chroot code to ensure unphased upgrades are done?
>
> Phasing is not affected by pinning you need to set:
>
> APT::Get::Always-Include-Phased-Updates "true";

Given this option already exists, we should just start setting it
explicitly in launchpad-buildd & mk-sbuild.

>
> I do not think encoding that enabled proposed implies no phasing
> is a good idea, because apt shouldn't know specifics about what
> suite names mean.
>
> But then again, the phasing code knows about -security right
> now, because it disables phasing if there's a security update
> between the installed and the phased version (as it cannot
> switch candidates, only keep back).
>
> Optimally one day a new solver enables us to um not need to
> know that (solver draft: https://magenta.jak-linux.org/bin/solver3.pdf
> | https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/solver3).
>
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okurrr,

Dimitri

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