On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 02:55:46PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote:
> Some packages that are Ubuntu-only have `ubuntu` in the version string,
> which automatically stops autosync, which is probably what we want.
>
> Other such Ubuntu-only packages do not, so if Debian were to package
> something with the same source package name, it may autosync, which is
> probably not what we want.
>
> Unless it's in the sync blocklist, but now there are three possible
> states for an Ubuntu-only package to be with respect to autosync, which
> is just unnecessary work for concerned reviewers.
>
> I just reviewed the following SRUs, which (sort of) uses a mix of both:
>
> lxd-installer | 1 | focal | source
> lxd-installer | 1 | jammy | source
> lxd-installer | 4 | noble | source
> lxd-installer | 4ubuntu0.1 | noble-updates | source
> lxd-installer | 4ubuntu0.2 | noble/unapproved/39f530b | source
> lxd-installer | 8 | oracular | source
> lxd-installer | 8.1 | oracular/unapproved/74f18e3 | source
> lxd-installer | 12 | plucky | source
>
> Could we agree that all Ubuntu-only packages SHOULD always contain
> `ubuntu` in their version string (this would usually be -0ubuntuX or
> 0ubuntuX[1] if native) then, so that we don't have to think about it?
>
> Are there any reasons for an exception to this rule, where an autosync
> would actually be desirable if Debian were to introduce such a package?
> If it's not for a common reason, then perhaps an additional policy might
> be that there SHOULD be something in debian/README.source that explains
> any deviation from this.
Funny enough I had that same conversation with Scott James Remnant many
years ago on upstart, which had like 0.1.0-1 versions in Ubuntu at the
time.
I also had exactly the problem where it synced software-properties
from Debian because it was not in the blocklist, and software-properties
Debian packaging ended up weird (0.90debian1, possibly not an actual
version number)
But also this is going to get even weirder if we have a package we
develop and start to use the ubuntu version string. Then my Debian
version of foo 1ubuntu1 will end up 1ubuntu1debian1.
Like I can guarantee you, someone will upload 1ubuntu2 with code
changes and the Debian uploader will need to package that, rather
than a 2ubuntu1.
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