Re: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

On 08/29/2012 03:29 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:

Hi Doug,    On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:18:36PM -0400, Doug McMahon wrote:  

On 08/27/2012 05:50 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:  

Do any of you see reasons for not making this change, and dropping the  alternate CDs?  Are there shortcomings to the proposed fallback solutions  that we haven't identified here?  

Purely from a user/tester perspective a current reason to not remove  in beta1 is currently for many or most users the live image is  completely unusable. No live session or install is possible due to  total video degradation. (quite similar to the  lightdm/greeter/nvidia issue in 12.04 dev.  

  The purpose of the alternate CD is to install an Ubuntu desktop.  If the  desktop is not usable for you, then what purpose does it serve to use the  alternate CD instead of the desktop CD?  You're then only testing the  alternate installer itself, which we want to discontinue anyway.  So it  would be better to get rid of it to save testers from spending time doing  such testing!

Never said anything about not being able to run 12.10, it actually runs fine here. Just can not use any live image after 08/17 due to booting to a corrupted screen

The one exception seen here is when the hdd is devoid of any  Ubuntu/grub/lightdm installs, only then is any recent image viable.  That though is not a typical scenario for most.  

Maybe this is a well known issue & expected to be resolved, if not  then removing the alt. installer will prevent many from installing  the beta or thereabouts if not fixed in the near future.  

  I don't know if this issue is known to anyone else, but it's not known to  me.  Can you provide a bug number to a report of this issue?    

Here's one I just filed though likely worthless as is, filed from my current install.
To note - the nomodeset option does not help.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1043518

Did manage to retrieve most of  the logs so maybe the bug report can be improved though if only affecting a small number hardware then doesn't particularly matter. (give the report a day or 2 & we'll see..