Tuesday, 4 June 2013

Re: Systems with invalid locales

On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 04:18:40AM -0600, Adam Conrad wrote:
>
> I wonder if it might be high time to discuss slapping C.UTF-8 in the
> default locale in pretty much every minimal installation scenario we
> can think of (obviously, still overriding in more complex installers
> that allow a user to choose a properly local locale).

And on a vague tangent from that, it might also be getting close to a
point where we should discuss switching buildds to C.UTF-8 too (they
currently force C). My gut feeling is that this shouldn't have much
effect, with the following assumptions:

1) Most packages and testsuites shouldn't care what locale they're
run in in the first place (but it doesn't seem to make sense to
test in a locale almost no one uses in production, while a UTF-8
locale will at least trip a few curious issues real people see)

2) Most packages that do require being in C for their builds or for
their testsuite probably already force this, because maintainers
have been working in fancy locales for years now, and they've
had to force C where needed to make things work outside chroots.

Pretty sure we *would* run into some packages (especially older ones)
that would fail in a UTF-8 locale, but I think the general benefit of
building in a locale more similar to 99% of people's runtime locales
would be a net win, even if we have to fix builds and testsuites to
cope.

Thoughts?

... Adam

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