Wednesday, 10 July 2013

Re: Xorg was removed.. without an alternative

On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 04:36:35 PM Seth Arnold wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 07:17:24PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > > > The issue is that it's only in the *devel* pre-release when it's not
> > > > safe
> > > > for humans to enable it. The GUI for enabling it needs to exist
> > > > because
> > > > there are scenarios where humans should be enabling it: people using
> > > > older
> > > > stable releases who are crippled by some bug or other, and need to
> > > > test
> > > > SRUs sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > With this enabled, a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will not pull from
> > > -proposed, but
> > > sudo apt-get install xorg/saucy-proposed , would allow me to
> > > forcefully install xorg from saucy-proposed, as an opt-in - per
> > > package choice.
> > >
> > > [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
> >
> > What part of "not for humans" is confusing?
>
> What will we do for SRU verification?
>
> Will we introduce a new -proposed-for-humans pocket once Saucy
> is released? Or will we need to go edit everything that once said
> "saucy-proposed isn't for humans" to read "t-proposed isn't for humans"?
>
> It seems so strange to spend six months saying "don't touch that" just
> to turn around and then spend nine months begging people to touch that...

I know it can be confusing, but the $devel-proposed (that should be future
proof) serves a completely different purpose than -proposed post-release. Once
Saucy is released, saucy-proposed will serve the same purpose -proposed has
always served. "Not for humans" only applies to the development phase.

Scott K

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