Tuesday, 21 January 2014

Re: is memtest86+ useful in ubuntu-standard ?

On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:39:44AM -0500, Scott Moser wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:35:40AM -0500, Scott Moser wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > > > I think it's helpful for user-facing documentation for it to be
> > > > > consistently installed by default, especially since a system with memory
> > > > > integrity problems may have trouble installing packages; but I'd be
> > > > > happy for it to be moved out to desktop-common + server so that it
> > > >
> > > > well, cloud-image includes ubuntu-server, so I don't really want it there
> > > > either.
> > >
> > > It does? That's not reflected in its seed.
> >
> > I believe you told me not to do that.
> > http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/19/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t13:54
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1224504
> > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.saucy/revision/2164
> Well, not quite. Here's the relevant bit of what I said in that IRC
> log:
> <cjwatson> smoser: That said, cloud-image looks substantively duplicated from server
> <cjwatson> smoser: So it does look as though that STRUCTURE change might be a mistake
> <cjwatson> smoser: Either that, or there's a load of stuff in cloud-image that should now be deleted because it's already in server
> <cjwatson> smoser: Either way, you should indeed make the image build process line up with the seed structure
> <cjwatson> smoser: And consider the future question of whether you might ever want something in the default server install but *not* in cloud images
> So what I told you was that you need to either:
> * have cloud-image inherit from server in STRUCTURE and not duplicate
> most of its contents
> *or*:
> * have cloud-image not inherit from server in STRUCTURE and duplicate
> most of its contents
> but not somewhere in between. You picked the latter option, which is
> fine by me.
> I think memtest86+ is a great example of something that we might want in
> the default server install but not in cloud images; so my favoured
> option here would be simply to move memtest86+ to the desktop-common and
> server seeds, which I believe will cause it to vanish from the cloud
> images as things are currently configured.

Well, for one reason or another, that I'm not completely sure of, the
cloud image build process using live-build explicitly declares the 'server'
as a task to install.

So moving memtest86+ to server wont really help.

So I guess I just need to remove -server from the tasks that are installed
by the cloud-image build process, and then add to cloud-image seed
anything that is in server seed that we want.

and then move memtest86+ to desktop-common and server.


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