Similarly Ubuntu with OpenJDK and Tomcat is something that we run on
quite a few servers and so we would value it being in main.
Additionally the impression I get from debian-java (perhaps wrongly, I
don't follow it that closely) is that since OpenJDK now exists as an
open source Java implementation efforts to make things work with gcj
have much reduced. OpenJDK is a pain because of all the security
vulnerabilities but it is a complete implementation which everything
works with, gcj is not (aiui). I don't think that relying on gcj is a
good move going forwards.
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 16:14 -0500, Edward Holcroft wrote:
> Not having a well-supported OpenJDK would be a disincentive for me. All my
> 12.04 Tomcat servers use OpenJDK. I was planning continue this arrangement
> when we upgrade to 14.04.
> I hope I'm not alone in saying it's most comforting to have a well
> supported OpenJDK/Tomcat solution on Ubuntu. I would not want to resort to
> using Oracle.
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:16 PM, James Page <email@example.com> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA256
> > Hi Folks
> > The first round of seed review changes have now been applied to the
> > server seeds; quite a few bits have dropped out of main and the size
> > of the server ISO has reduced!
> > Next - the foundations team have been reviewing whether we should
> > continue to provide OpenJDK as the default Java implementation in
> > Ubuntu; this package is quite a resource drain on both the foundations
> > and security teams from a SRU perspective so demotion of openjdk7 to
> > universe is being considered.
> > Most Java-ish things in main can be built using gcj; however Tomcat7
> > is not going to work with gcj so would end up being demoted as well.
> > What do people think to this plan? Are OpenJDK and Tomcat7 important
> > packages for Ubuntu users? Will not having a well supported OpenJDK
> > implementation in Ubuntu main discourage people from using Ubuntu to
> > host their Java based applications? Or do users still just use the
> > Oracle Java downloads instead and ignore what Ubuntu provides?
> > Let me know what you think...
> > Cheers
> > James
> > - --
> > James Page
> > Ubuntu and Debian Developer
> > firstname.lastname@example.org
> > email@example.com
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux)
> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/
> > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS3rl4AAoJEL/srsug59jDRJ8P/jPv6J8oHhjq07XB6EFMJRL7
> > Fli5bqbtNeH+hrZbqVBtvvj7C1+4fKpDB8ZHplNK8SYpv5MEmoiqhDm48deB3Lco
> > 4tWt7BF5iLa8xdNG4RWwWNiGeLhvL6lKpAEYZEygVvoRs9WvTzAZ9GGipBg/Y0d+
> > fVvYUshKss+AckS8pk4GKmbGcYTw7tpPyLa9+DjubDLpcLnRgDouvWRTpm51P9Hu
> > gJHhktrzQIHDVVBaXJfyQIV7Iv/M0SIHgeWQTX2SkAKaOh38qYoDVmUFseGDNiez
> > v139UjILwqBS+Ods9oULTn55pujgkkgO56Z0TGOtf2qMJoJ9OdL61aCys4e/sW7c
> > wqZapvVVS0vGyAiCUoezTdh11v4hq6c9lNBkZyV75936LPCoNTl8JVDeHTle2ZHO
> > WSZE+hgnsS/ZB4b54+osF6Guaa4m7irUA3but9XNfi/+3nCZx+d06+z4GRKwmQii
> > 8EvdronhYJ8U7NzoJXXZpXcrEQ2lRJz2Hh4bozGqvtx27mq2bdrPSFcscjb/Qxz/
> > ebHcfEUoLrWWSyFXpJXKIV1FTwOCb1O7/yZrka9YR2DQno2vMOlWkadHkrCUqYF4
> > 4dLcRteYy/8sLP2X8q/tcm77ed66pbYBPicbVlrjo8iGqRwPZJWnRtQeiF8VnvZr
> > LU1DSuFkmfioCAZEorVf
> > =N8o8
> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> > --
> > Ubuntu-cloud mailing list
> > Ubuntufirstname.lastname@example.org
> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cloud
> Edward Holcroft | Madsen Kneppers & Associates Inc.
> 11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250 | Johns Creek, GA 30097
> O (770) 446-9606 | M (770) 630-0949