Wednesday, 9 December 2015

Re: Default languages strategy for Ubuntu desktop CD

Thanks Didier!

Just to understand it, what impact would the change have on languages that are not on the image and are traditionally installed online? In particular,

- Would ubiquity still be shown in those languages even if the language packs are not in the image?
- Would these additional languages still be easily installable once there is an Internet connection (during or after the installation)

Cheers,
David.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Didier Roche <[email protected]> wrote:
Le 05/12/2015 18:48, Dmitry Shachnev a écrit :
> Hi all,

Hey,
>
> 2015-12-01 11:06 GMT+03:00 Didier Roche <[email protected]>:
>> 1. Install full language support for those shipped on xenial image. It means
>> that opening "language selector" won't request any additional package to
>> install[1]. If you are proceeding an online installation, additional
>> packages won't be downloaded to complete your language installation. If you
>> have done an offline one, you won't have the infamous after first boot
>> "Language support is not complete" dialog. Note that for now, we have no
>> complete language support on the live! For instance, in English, we have the
>> following missing packages that language-support will require to install (or
>> that ubiquity will download it for you if you are connected to the
>> Internet):
>> hyphen-en-us, mythes-en-us, mythes-en-au, hunspell-en-ca, myspell-en-au,
>> myspell-en-gb, myspell-en-za, libreoffice-help-en-gb,
>> libreoffice-l10n-en-za, firefox-locale-en, thunderbird-locale-en,
>> thunderbird-locale-en-gb, thunderbird-locale-en-us.
>>
>> 2. Based on popcon, number of native speaker and total number of speaker per
>> language, it seems that the following language selection makes sense for our
>> user base (more info on the language selection on
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1520278):
>> en, es, zh (simplified), pt, de, fr, it, ru
> In general I like this idea (especially when Russian is in the list of
> languages :)).
my pleasure :p
>
> Do we really need to include Chinese (simplified), provided that we
> have a separate spin (Ubuntu Kylin) for Chinese users anyway? Or are
> there use cases when one would prefer normal Ubuntu over Ubuntu Kylin?

I had the same remark at first and didn't include it in this
"refactoring". However:
- it was already partially on the iso
- seems like there is a demand for using traditional Ubuntu rather than
the specific Kylin respin

So it seems it's not that much of a change (apart from adding missing
remaining packages for that language) and still worth it.
Cheers,
Didier

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