Wednesday, 9 December 2015

Re: Default languages strategy for Ubuntu desktop CD

On 9 December 2015 at 11:29, David Planella <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Didier!
>
> Just to understand it, what impact would the change have on languages that
> are not on the image and are traditionally installed online? In particular,
>
> - Would ubiquity still be shown in those languages even if the language
> packs are not in the image?

ubiquity always includes all the translations there are for it, and
none of its translations come from language packs.

> - Would these additional languages still be easily installable once there is
> an Internet connection (during or after the installation)
>

usually, ubiquity tries to download and install language packs during
installation if there is internet connection. Otherwise incomplete
language support dialog will be shown upon login offering to complete
download & installation of the language packs.

All of the above has always been the case (or has been the case for a
very long time time).

Regards,

Dimitri.

> Cheers,
> David.
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Didier Roche <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Le 05/12/2015 18:48, Dmitry Shachnev a écrit :
>> > Hi all,
>>
>> Hey,
>> >
>> > 2015-12-01 11:06 GMT+03:00 Didier Roche <[email protected]>:
>> >> 1. Install full language support for those shipped on xenial image. It
>> >> means
>> >> that opening "language selector" won't request any additional package
>> >> to
>> >> install[1]. If you are proceeding an online installation, additional
>> >> packages won't be downloaded to complete your language installation. If
>> >> you
>> >> have done an offline one, you won't have the infamous after first boot
>> >> "Language support is not complete" dialog. Note that for now, we have
>> >> no
>> >> complete language support on the live! For instance, in English, we
>> >> have the
>> >> following missing packages that language-support will require to
>> >> install (or
>> >> that ubiquity will download it for you if you are connected to the
>> >> Internet):
>> >> hyphen-en-us, mythes-en-us, mythes-en-au, hunspell-en-ca,
>> >> myspell-en-au,
>> >> myspell-en-gb, myspell-en-za, libreoffice-help-en-gb,
>> >> libreoffice-l10n-en-za, firefox-locale-en, thunderbird-locale-en,
>> >> thunderbird-locale-en-gb, thunderbird-locale-en-us.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Based on popcon, number of native speaker and total number of
>> >> speaker per
>> >> language, it seems that the following language selection makes sense
>> >> for our
>> >> user base (more info on the language selection on
>> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1520278):
>> >> en, es, zh (simplified), pt, de, fr, it, ru
>> > In general I like this idea (especially when Russian is in the list of
>> > languages :)).
>> my pleasure :p
>> >
>> > Do we really need to include Chinese (simplified), provided that we
>> > have a separate spin (Ubuntu Kylin) for Chinese users anyway? Or are
>> > there use cases when one would prefer normal Ubuntu over Ubuntu Kylin?
>>
>> I had the same remark at first and didn't include it in this
>> "refactoring". However:
>> - it was already partially on the iso
>> - seems like there is a demand for using traditional Ubuntu rather than
>> the specific Kylin respin
>>
>> So it seems it's not that much of a change (apart from adding missing
>> remaining packages for that language) and still worth it.
>> Cheers,
>> Didier
>>
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