Hi Matthew,
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 03:28:32PM +1300, Matthew Ruffell wrote:
> I was testing Jammy and happened to notice that unattended-upgrades
> Depends on ubuntu-server-minimal, and when removing unattended-upgrades,
> ubuntu-server-minimal is removed along with it:
> $ sudo apt remove unattended-upgrades
> ...
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> ubuntu-server-minimal unattended-upgrades
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>
> $ sudo apt rdepends unattended-upgrades
> unattended-upgrades
> Reverse Depends:
> Recommends: python3-software-properties
> Recommends: ubuntu-mate-desktop
> Recommends: ubuntu-mate-core
> Depends: freedombox
> Recommends: fbx-all
> Depends: ubuntu-server-minimal
> Should unattended-upgrades be changed from Depends to Recommends for
> ubuntu-server-minimal?
> It is very common for our larger users to remove unattended-upgrades so
> they can manage their systems patching manually.
It's not necessary to remove the unattended-upgrades package in order to
achieve this. unattended-upgrades is configurable, and it's sufficient to
set 'APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "0";' in
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades (or, in a separate file that sorts
lexically after, if that works better for the user's configuration
management system) to disable unattended-upgrades at runtime.
Therefore I do not think we should relax the dependency for this use case.
> I filed a bug against ubuntu-meta:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1954724
>
> I was in the process of making a debdiff, and I happened to notice that
> unattended-upgrades is only in the server-minimal-$ARCH files only:
>
> $ grep -Rin "unattended-upgrades" .
> ./server-minimal-armhf:23:unattended-upgrades
> ./server-minimal-riscv64:23:unattended-upgrades
> ./server-minimal-arm64:23:unattended-upgrades
> ./server-minimal-ppc64el:23:unattended-upgrades
> ./server-minimal-s390x:24:unattended-upgrades
> ./server-minimal-amd64:23:unattended-upgrades
>
> When I also ran the ./update script in ubuntu-meta, it automatically repopulated
> server-minimal-$ARCH with unattended-upgrades again, so it seems I am missing
> something to do with dependency magic in the archive.
The dependencies from ubuntu-meta are generated from the seeds:
git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu
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