Wednesday, 3 February 2016

Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

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On 02.02.2016 20:38, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Dimitri John Ledkov ([email protected]):
>> On 2 February 2016 at 07:58, Stefan Bader <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 01.02.2016 23:14, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu has an i386 port which is fully supported.
>>>>
>>>> There a bunch of 3rd party applications that rely on the Multi-Arch
>>>> technology to support/use i386 binaries on amd64 (e.g. Skype from the
>>>> partner archive). BTW, can we ask Microsoft to publish native amd64
>>>> binaries, rather than those that rely on multi-arch i386? Also, does
>>>> Valve Steam product rely on i386 multiarch binaries? or is it fully
>>>> amd64? (and e.g. downloads/bundles/ships any required i386 binaries
>>>> that it needs)? And Netflix - does that run on amd64-only without i386
>>>> multiarch?
>>>>
>>>> However, it seems to me that this is done specifically on otherwise
>>>> full amd64 installations.
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that: all currently shipped hardware, with enough support
>>>> to run full Unity (7) Desktop, is amd64. Tested with amd64 kernel, and
>>>> amd64 graphics drivers. And hardware validation is done on amd64 too.
>>>>
>>>> In 2016, people with i386-only hardware are unlikely to be capable to
>>>> run Unity 7 Desktop, and probably run other Ubuntu variants. I guess
>>>> there are some accidental i386 users, e.g. those that have installed
>>>> i386 variant on amd64 hardware.
>>>
>>> Just wondering whether you considered netbooks here. Not that old (maybe 6y?)
>>> and at least the two specimens I would have around are early Atoms (i386 only)
>>> but with (also early) i915 Intel graphics. They used to be reasonably
>>> accelerated to cope. Not sure about unity 7. But maybe some reason to allow at
>>> least for 16.04 some i386 iso (by 18.04 the problem might be resolved through
>>> the crappy life-span recent hw seems to have)...
>>>
>>
>> My argument here would be that, such a netbook already has Ubuntu on it.
>> And that one would not want to /install/ it, but only /upgrade/ it to 16.04 LTS.
>> And thus archive-only support is sufficient for it.
>
> Until he needs to replace the hd.
>
> Stefan, it might be worth checking whether Dimitri is right about unity7
> not woring on that hardware anyway. Can you try a xenial desktop livecd?
>

Got the Xenial life system (i386) running here on an Aspire One (Atom N270 /
Intel i915 supported graphics). Not super-quick but usable.

-Stefan