Monday 21 October 2019

Details of what is happening with python3.8 in Ubuntu?

Hey there,

Matthias announced that F would have python3.8 and from the recent
upload, it looks like that's being worked on actively at the moment.

While looking at the update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages report
I noticed some delta-over-debian being added to packages where I
can't really make sense of what's going on in the changelog.

Some examples
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/447713946/pygobject_3.34.0-1build1_3.34.0-1ubuntu1.diff.gz
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/447727952/pycairo_1.16.2-1ubuntu1_1.16.2-1ubuntu3.diff.gz
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/447772089/cracklib2_2.9.6-2build1_2.9.6-2ubuntu1.diff.gz

Some changes for example add a Build-Depends on dh-exec and hacks in the
.install, I guess those doing the changes understand why but it triggers
some questions to me

- Could someone explain why those .install tricks are needed exactly?
Couldn't the issue be solved in the python packaging tools instead?

- Can/should those changes be forwarded to Debian? (they are not at the
moment?) I would be happy to help with that once I understand the
technical approach being taken.

- Is that a transition we are under pressure to get through? Should we
maybe take the time to document what's going on and have more people
helping and do things in a way were we collectively understand what is
happening so we know what to do from those deltas in the futur/ help
forwarding to Debian for example?

Thanks,
Sebastien Bacher

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