Friday 12 May 2023

Re: NBS removals of old kernels from stable -security and -updates pockets

On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 16:19, Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 02:20:39PM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote:
> > > I am therefore intending that, for jammy and later releases, we start to
> > > prune NBS kernel packages on an ongoing basis, not just at EOL time.
>
> > We already have users complaining on IRC about missing kernel packages...
>
> What, specifically, are the complaints?
>
> > What is the official way/process for getting older packages for example for
> > crash dump analysis where one might need an older kernel+dbgsym from an
> > active series?
>
> Does the Ubuntu Kernel Team accept crash reports on out-of-date kernels?

Yes, often. Especially when a given ABI is "popular" (aka default
quick launch in clouds, point release download media, certified, and
similar).
Also Canonical Support & Livepatch mostly work with out-of-date reports too.
As generally the desire is for the kernel they are going to reboot
into, fix a specific problem, rather than rebooting to the newest one
to still discover that the issue at hand is not fixed.

> The general policy for apport is to disallow bug report submissions if the
> executable or any of the loaded libraries are from out-of-date packages.
>
> But it will still be possible to download these older packages from
> Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory

As mentioned elsewhere pull-pkg (and friends pull-lp-debs /
pull-lp-ddebs ) are very useful tools to quickly & securely download
desired packages from launchpad librarian.

--
okurrr,

Dimitri

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