> You may be aware of a couple of recent changes in debianutils in Debian:
>
> 1. The "tempfile" command has been removed.
>
> 2. The "which" command now prints a deprecation warning on every
> invocation.
>
> These have ramifications across the archive, and also outside the
> archive, as everything that relies on these commands need adjusting.
>
> This kind of big change is being done in the right place in Debian's
> release cycle - shortly after a release. But for Ubuntu, it's the
> opposite - we're a few months away from an LTS release.
>
> Risk 1: before everything is settled, we release an LTS that is
> unpolished with regards to these changes.
>
> Risk 2: the changes may prove unpopular with users. Given that these are
> deprecations coming from Debian, it seems odd for Ubuntu users to face
> this ahead of Debian and without appearing in our interim releases
> first. Debian may end up applying mitigations for specific affected user
> stories but we would be stuck with the behaviour defined at our LTS
> release time.
>
> Proposal: we revert these two changes in an Ubuntu delta on the
> debianutils package, and reconsider syncing back with Debian _after_
> Jammy is released.
>
> Then Debian can lead the way, and we won't get additional work ensuring
> that there are no user-facing warts ahead of Debian's schedule.
>
> Any objections to an upload to debianutils in Ubuntu reverting these two
> changes?
>
> Robie
>
>
+1 from me on this proposal. I don't think those changes are appropriate for our
LTS.
Honestly, I don't think the changes are appropriate at all, and are the type of
changes that break and annoy users without any great benefit. But, as you said,
that can be debated after the LTS.
Marc.
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